Going down an Inch or two...

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by Sundeep

The only way that would happen in an E-Series is if you're really really dumb and leave the shocker out or something. It's physically impossible for the spring to fall out when the weight of the car is on it, and obviously if it did happen to move, the shocker would keep it at least hanging on the car.

Sundeep

LOL Yeah. Maybe he went over such a big bump, that his diff fell out as well? rofl.

[nothin suss]

Originally Posted by ELmalaca

agree very bouncy!!!

just go ultras man wouldnt suggest cutting them

It will be bouncy if you leave it riding on the bump stops for sure!

The trick is to not do that....



That is an old pic of my ride, didnt bounce at all (standard length shocks all round and yes i still had bump stops) had to pick the rear up a little now because i been doing some towing latley and the towbar was near draggin on the ground :(

But there is a little secret i could possibly share to cheat at the rear... I would say heaps of people have done it already tho.

[OED666]

man that thing is low. looks awesome.

[eldreamin]

OK just a quick question..... I no you guys dont recommend monroe shocks. Someone already said they were rubbish. What can you suggest for decent shortened shocks for when I get my ultralows in a couple of weeks time?

Sorry to hijack the thread but I thought it would fit in here.

[NC_GHIA]

Originally Posted by 1tufel

my mate just bought ultralows for his car (cant mention what it is on here) and he had cut springs in the back. sitting them next to each other the ultralows were taller, however its all in the spring rate/tension, they are a lot softer than the cut originals.
if you want to be cheap, just take your springs out, take them to a place like the suspension centre, and get them retentioned. i had my old car done, it dropped to the equivalent of ultralows, and they were stock springs. the ride was unbelieveable.

Is this true and how much does it cost... Did you get new shocks as well...

[needfordspeed]

Originally Posted by nothin suss

But there is a little secret i could possibly share to cheat at the rear... I would say heaps of people have done it already tho.

Your car looks awesome, what's the secret? PM me if you want.

[OED666]

Originally Posted by eldreamin

OK just a quick question..... I no you guys dont recommend monroe shocks. Someone already said they were rubbish. What can you suggest for decent shortened shocks for when I get my ultralows in a couple of weeks time?

Sorry to hijack the thread but I thought it would fit in here.

without spending a bit of money there isnt much you can get...

look into koni, kyb or pedders shocks. i have koni's in the back and pedders in the front of mine, and i couldnt be happier.

[Rollin]

As OED said, Monroe are rubbish.

Get some koni rears and adjust them so they are nice and stiff, then have a chat to k-mac about some custom lowered springs.

Surely there is no emergency that you need the car lowered NOW...It's worth saving the money and spending it on something that will contribute in no small way to the ride, handling and safety of your car...

And maybe actually GET the wheels first, then see how they look with 'only' superlows on the car.

[nothin suss]

Originally Posted by needfordspeed

Your car looks awesome, what's the secret? PM me if you want.

I will take some pics today and post them up...........

[DEVL-XR]

Originally Posted by Sundeep

The only way that would happen in an E-Series is if you're really really dumb and leave the shocker out or something. It's physically impossible for the spring to fall out when the weight of the car is on it, and obviously if it did happen to move, the shocker would keep it at least hanging on the car.

Sundeep

im only getting this info second hand so, my mate said something like something collapsed or something, he also said the car was a just about sitting on the ground tho!

[nothin suss]

Originally Posted by needfordspeed

Your car looks awesome, what's the secret? PM me if you want.

I have posted a little section on this at
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=1049933

i dont want to hijack this thread on 6cylEA

[EBFalcs]

if you really want to lower it without getting new springs, heres how to do it,

park it on flat concrete or bitumen, put blocks of wood under the jack points and if you want to lower it an inch, leave an inch gap between the blocks of wood and the jack points. then heat the springs and the car will drop onto the blocks, let them cool off and it's done, heat either the top half or the bottom half only, and it might keep a bit of springyness in the other half. but do not chop them as the end you chop will not fit the strut properly and it could slip out.

[Aaron_EF8]

if you really want to lower it without getting new springs, heres how to do it,

park it on flat concrete or bitumen, put blocks of wood under the jack points and if you want to lower it an inch, leave an inch gap between the blocks of wood and the jack points. then heat the springs and the car will drop onto the blocks, let them cool off and it's done, heat either the top half or the bottom half only, and it might keep a bit of springyness in the other half. but do not chop them as the end you chop will not fit the strut properly and it could slip out.

lol @ you.

[oneredED]

Originally Posted by EBFalcs

if you really want to lower it without getting new springs, heres how to do it,

park it on flat concrete or bitumen, put blocks of wood under the jack points and if you want to lower it an inch, leave an inch gap between the blocks of wood and the jack points. then heat the springs and the car will drop onto the blocks, let them cool off and it's done, heat either the top half or the bottom half only, and it might keep a bit of springyness in the other half. but do not chop them as the end you chop will not fit the strut properly and it could slip out.

I haven't studied alot of material properties, but I would think that by heating the springs you are changing the molecular structure (for lack of better words) so that the properties of the metal are different, not only in torsional rigidity which is lowering the car, but also in terms of stress, strain and all that (ie. they may become "brittle"). I wouldn't do it myself. I'd even prefer to cut them, because even though the stiffness of the spring will change (stiffer), the spring will still be strong if you cut it without allowing much heat to dissipate through the spring.

[EDXR6T]

Originally Posted by BradensEBxr6

im only getting this info second hand so, my mate said something like something collapsed or something, he also said the car was a just about sitting on the ground tho!

I call BS

What type of car was it not wanting to wanting to make the assumption it was an e-series.

If it was somthing with IRS this might change the outcome

And cut spring rock!!!!!

[oneredED]

I call BS

What type of car was it not wanting to wanting to make the assumption it was an e-series.

If it was somthing with IRS this might change the outcome

And cut spring rock!!!!!

Rear springs can fall out of commodores (VN-VS non-IRS at least) if cut. I have seen it, the spring does not sit over the shock in them, it is separate, and can quite easily come out if rear is unloaded, for example if the car gets airbourne.

[EBFalcs]

Originally Posted by oneredED

Rear springs can fall out of commodores (VN-VS non-IRS at least) if cut. I have seen it, the spring does not sit over the shock in them, it is separate, and can quite easily come out if rear is unloaded, for example if the car gets airbourne.

happened to someone i know with a VN SS, reversed off a gutter and the spring fell onto the road

[EDXR6T]

Originally Posted by oneredED

Rear springs can fall out of commodores (VN-VS non-IRS at least) if cut. I have seen it, the spring does not sit over the shock in them, it is separate, and can quite easily come out if rear is unloaded, for example if the car gets airbourne.

Yer well commo's are gay jared you should now that haha

[oneredED]

Originally Posted by EDXR6T

Yer well commo's are gay jared you should now that haha

Yeah too true pat, but everytime I go home to work on my car, I pull into the workshop and see a VP SS, a 355 with 300rwkw (N/A) that would whoop my car even if mine was turbo. It's depressing :(

[EDXR6T]

Originally Posted by oneredED

Yeah too true pat, but everytime I go home to work on my car, I pull into the workshop and see a VP SS, a 355 with 300rwkw (N/A) that would whoop my car even if mine was turbo. It's depressing :(

VP SS's are a diffrent story man. I now i wouldent mind one:(

[EBFalcs]

Originally Posted by EDXR6T

VP SS's are a diffrent story man. I now i wouldent mind one:(

i got a VP calais 5L, which is pretty much identical to an SS except for it don't have FE2 suspension, and body kit. and i have owned 3 falcons before it but those 5L commo's with t700's are awesome.

[babbo]

yeah where i work we put a vp with chopped springs on the hoist and the springs just feel out.
Only happens on those model commos but

[EBFalcs]

i can't chop them on mine because i have IRS, but i just put some king super lows in it and i'm happy with the height now.

[oneredED]

got a VP calais 5L, which is pretty much identical to an SS except for it don't have FE2 suspension, and body kit. and i have owned 3 falcons before it but those 5L commo's with t700's are awesome.

The SS thats constantly in our workshop (family members car) has VERY LITTLE that is SS left on it. It's a candy puple, rolls on 19's, Aero bodykit, 300rwkw 355, tremec 6spd etc etc... I think the interior is the only SS part left ;)

[[Tonko]]

dont chop the springs!! i did in my old EA and it was just waaay to bouncy, i ended up scraping a huge hole in the fuel tank and ripping off the rear bar, was bouncing all over the shop, about 30 km from home after taking a "shortcut" :
heres a pic of it minus 3 rear coils and 2 front...

[nothin suss]

Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

dont chop the springs!! i did in my old EA and it was just waaay to bouncy, i ended up scraping a huge hole in the fuel tank and ripping off the rear bar, was bouncing all over the shop, about 30 km from home after taking a "shortcut" :

There is no use chopping 3 coils and leaving the bump stops standard... did you 'alter' the bump stops??

[[Tonko]]

nope, i was young and dumb

[hmc 'mont]

one of ma mates cut his ultra lows in a vn commonwhore/toyota lexen, i dont know much about it however the ride wasnt that bouncy at all