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Old 06-04-2005, 07:50 PM   #1
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G'day all, I have received an e-mail from a truck driver named Mark who witnessed some appauling driving by an E Series member - an L plater in a blue Falcon wagon with Club stickers. His original message, reproduced with permission, is as follows:

"Dear Mr. Travis,

I am writing to you regarding the actions by one of your members,
registration # rego removed Dark Blue Falcon station wagon, which I will add had
your clubs logos all over its windows. This morning at around 7.40am myself
and another vehicle were attempting to legally merge from a lane that
discontinued on Cheltenham Road, Keysborough into the lane your member was
in. However your member moved up, so to make sure that no one could merge,
I sounded the horn on my car and moved in behind your member only to notice
the L plate in the window, the driver was a learner and he and his
instructor, which I gather was his father or another relative were laughing.

Now I believe that road courtesy is just as important as road rules, and
both should be taught to learners. As we moved on further down Cheltenham
Road through the intersections of Springvale Road and Centre Dandenong Road
the learner speed off increasing his speed to 100km’s in a 80km zone, by the
time I had caught up to check his speed he had reduced his speed to 80km’s,
however he again increased his speed and I clocked him at 100km’s again and
he continued this speed well into a 60km zone until he approached the
round-about at Boundary Road, Braeside. I find the actions of this learner
driver and the failure of his instructor to instruct him in safe and
courteous driving skills to be extremely poor, what sort of a driver in this
boy going to be when or if he gets his licence???

Not only did this learner driver act foolishly and his instructor fail in
his duty of care, but they both also dishonoured your club by driving in
this dangerous and discourtesy manner. Any driver licensed or learning
should not be driving in this manner at any time, I have given the details
of all this to the Springvale Police, however as you may well know they are
reluctant to act of this type of complaint.

I would also like to add that I am a member of a 4WD club, one of the rules
for the club is that all members drive in a safe and courteous manner at all
times, on all roads or there will either a reprimand or cancellation of
membership if a complaint is received.

I would like to think that your committee would take this matter to the
member in question and at the very least reprimand him and explain in no
uncertain terms that this sort of driving instruction and driving is not
tolerated at any time, no matter who is driving.

I would like a reply from you and if you require any further details, I will
am willing to call you with them.

Regards,

Mark"

The member shall be banned from the forums and the club as soon as we can establish his identity. We have zero tolerance for this type of stupidity.
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:56 PM   #2
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Was it Tommi? :

Good on you Jack, i guess this is one of the downsides of letting people put E-Series stickers on their cars.
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:00 PM   #3
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Sounds like Tommi..
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:00 PM   #4
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:06 PM   #5
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Pretty disgraceful actions for such a publically identifiable vehicle regardless of who was driving, but on the other hand - what was the complainer's reason for having to speed himself to try and check the speed? Isn't that equally as reckless?

There are always two sides.

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Old 06-04-2005, 08:07 PM   #6
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I just checked the rego he gave against a pic I have of Tommi's car, and it's a perfect match. I thought this would be a matter of banning some whino but losing an enthusiastic member under such circumstances is going to be an unfortunate task. I'll speak to the higher ups but either way there will need to be serious action taken.
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:11 PM   #7
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No excuses. Tommi screwed up. If he acts the fool then he can do it without E-Series advertising on his car as far as im concerned. Brings down the reputation of a good club.
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:13 PM   #8
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this is disgraceful on his behalf, what a stupid bloody thing to do...
imagine being banned before getting to attend a meet.....
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:14 PM   #9
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far out i thought it was a joke when you guys were saying tommi. but it makes sense, he is the only owner of a dark ED wagon with L plates in the club who lives in that side of town. Big shock!!!!!!!
 
Old 06-04-2005, 08:15 PM   #10
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Pretty bad thing to see something like that impacting negatively on the club guys. I hope a resolution can be met, sucks to see that one persons actions can impact on every one else when it is for something like that.
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unconstructive comment removed. PM sent

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Old 06-04-2005, 08:17 PM   #12
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It's a serious issue, but i'd like to hear Tommi's response before i make any decisions..
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:21 PM   #13
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OMFG!!! That sounds like tommi, Man I didnt think he was that much of a idiot
If you have the club sticker on your car, you must abide by the rules, and act/drive safely within reason
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:25 PM   #14
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After Speaking to Tommi then his reply was

mad_ed_wagon:
"The guy was a bastard to me and one a lane was ending i didnt wonna let him infront "
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:28 PM   #15
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Thats immature if ive ever seen it
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:29 PM   #16
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Mmmm yeah but not wanting to let someone infront isn't justification for driving like an apparent tool...
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:33 PM   #17
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More than a few car forums won't have stickers on their cars for this very reason.

It must have been a very poor example of driving for someone to actually bother writing in. It doesn't sound like tommi or whatever his name is realises how bad his driving is. What is poorer is his 'instructor'
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i always make a point of letting someone merge infront if they are in the position to...... ive seen the accidents that can result from not letting someone merge..........


absolutley disgraceful and inexcusable act by tommi..... very imature..
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i always make a point of letting someone merge infront if they are in the position to......
Especialy when its a TRUCK
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since i've put the fordforums.AU and e-series stickers on my back window, i've always tried to act responsbly and to help and not hinder the promotion of a good forum and good club.
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:51 PM   #21
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Ah leave him alone, I could put money on the fact that the email that Jack recieved was half bullshit. Anyways I think if any punishment should be given it should be to tell him to remove his E-series club stickers, that way if he wants to drive like that, he can, without giving the club a bad rep.
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Thanks everyone for the input. Tommi has responded and feels he did not do anything wrong. From here I'll be discussing it with the admin team and we'll seek a strict but fair way of dealing with the situation. This thread is being locked but feel free to PM myself or another moderator with any queries.
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