Modern wagons?

Biggoggs · 09-05-2005, 09:26 PM

Hey guys,

What happened to the Fairmont wagons? I looked at Ford's website, and I didn't realise the only wagons of the Falcon range are the XT and Futura

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Also, why aren't there any factory `performance wagons'? I've seen an XR6 wagon and it looked awesome, but it seems the only new sportswagons are the WRXs. I'm sure there'd be at least a few people who'd buy a BOSS-loaded wagon

Cheers

niko · 09-05-2005, 09:43 PM

hmm sounds good, but maybe there isnt much of a market left?

Dodge · 09-05-2005, 09:47 PM

not in the usa, the dodge magnum is hugh , its a beast of a car.
how cool would this 5.7 hemi company car be???

http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/...cat=500&page=1

Biggoggs · 09-05-2005, 09:59 PM

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hmm sounds good, but maybe there isnt much of a market left?

They seem to be increasing if you ask me

For instance;

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...-1920x1440.jpg
Dodge Magnum (as Dodge says above ^^)

http://www.germancarfans.com/tuners/...610.001.1M.jpg
BMW 5-series touring

not to forget-
http://www.edmunds.com/media/news/co....wagon.500.jpg
WRX wagon

Dodge: To answer your question, apparently quite fun in the rain :P

Dodge · 09-05-2005, 10:10 PM

nost wagons sold today are some puffed up 4x4 version, dont see many house wives in small cars anymore, they all have prado's , ravs or crv's and the snobbier ones have X5's , ML's and porsche turbos

ilsautomotive · 09-05-2005, 10:13 PM

The Fairmont wagon was effectively replaced by the Territory.

Damo · 09-05-2005, 10:17 PM

Yeah, Ford couldn't justify building nice wagons, as they see them as just fleet sales. :(

12 · 09-05-2005, 10:18 PM

The last Fairmont wagon was the AUIII. In the Ghia, it was the best wagon to date, could even get it with a V8. The Territory has replaced the high end Falcon wagons, and is doing it pretty well judging from the sales.

fairmont1998 · 09-05-2005, 10:30 PM

It's a shame.
Holden still sells a lot of Berlina wagons.

ilsautomotive · 09-05-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AUGZMK

In the Ghia, it was the best wagon to date

I believe the EB II was the last Ghia wagon. Also worth noting HSV stopped making wagons after the VT II I think, and the VY SS wagon was only a limited run. 4WD wagons are the future whether we like it or not.

12 · 09-05-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouty

I believe the EB II was the last Ghia wagon.

Doh, yep, there was no Ghia wagon in the AU. Only the Fairmont. My bad.

neb · 09-05-2005, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggoggs

They seem to be increasing if you ask me

For instance;

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...-1920x1440.jpg
Dodge Magnum (as Dodge says above ^^)

http://www.germancarfans.com/tuners/...610.001.1M.jpg
BMW 5-series touring

not to forget-
http://www.edmunds.com/media/news/co....wagon.500.jpg
WRX wagon

Dodge: To answer your question, apparently quite fun in the rain :P

wholly crap i want every one of those cars... i love the bmw the most i want one

blueoval · 09-05-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouty

4WD wagons are the future whether we like it or not.

Yeah isnt that the truth!

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But it would be nice to see the XR range in a wagon.

Danny · 09-05-2005, 11:59 PM

Yeah Would be, but ONLY if they were rediesigned to look like the back end of the Terry (With the Control blade suspension), and waht are the chances of that happening? FOrd made a bad mistake keeping that shitty AU rear end on the wagons. They look like shit, and their resale and demise since territory shows just how popular that they are.

No point making a good looking car with a monstrous AU **** for a minority niche market. And dont tell me its not a small market cuz it was, they tried it with the EF XR6 and how long did it last (and that had a good looking rear). AFAIK the EF XR6 wagon didnt even come in a manual! (Correct me if wrong)

No good cheapening the Gorgeous BA XR pointy end with that Cart sprung **** (HA, the rear ends of them look like the front of those ole Messerschmit(?) 3 wheelers with the door on the front that the red cross bloodhound drove on the 'give blood' ad).

Done up AU-BA series Wagons are not good looking (I saw the thread on the BA GT one as well and ew). I donno what it is with wagons.... Not a fan unless thyre pre AU and have been done up tastefully (Neb brother, you have my nod matey ;) ).

Cheers,
- The Opinionated Danny.....

ilsautomotive · 10-05-2005, 12:09 AM

I checked out of curiosity and both the ED and EF XR6 wagons were available as manual and auto. Another example of a short-lived wagon niche model - I have seen only a few.

jonbays · 10-05-2005, 08:36 AM

The family wagon market died and moved on to the 4wd.

The sales rep fleet and taxi market continues for them but only in low spec el cheapo models.

AUIII fairmonts were the last decent ford wagon you could get.

V8 still an option and all the fruit.

I had a look at trading up to a BA but even the salesman admitted that it was a territory ghia or a futura wagon that was not as good as the fairmont wagon.

If you want a sporty wagon only Holden will help you with their SV8. You can still get V8 berlina wagons too. Its sad I don't want to go to a holden but V8 5.7L Berlina spec in a wagon with IRS.

banarcus · 10-05-2005, 09:44 AM

My next wagon will be a boss powered BA. I will build it myself.

neb · 10-05-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Done up AU-BA series Wagons are not good looking (I saw the thread on the BA GT one as well and ew). I donno what it is with wagons.... Not a fan unless thyre pre AU and have been done up tastefully (Neb brother, you have my nod matey ;) ).

Cheers,
- The Opinionated Danny.....

Thanks Dan :P

To be honest I don't really like the AU-BA wagons that much either.. they just don't look that good. eb-ed wagons are my favourite by far. ef xr6 wagons are mad as well, and also el wagons aren't bad... the only thing that puts me off them a bit is its still the ed rear end basically and looks a little weird on the ef-el shape. I also really like vt commodore wagons.. they seem to have a nice shape and look mad on their asses with hsv bodykits.

PULLY6 · 10-05-2005, 11:22 AM

hell yeah, i'd be so in on a boss powered BA wagon...

hmmm a photochop competition comes to mind!
BA wagon with bulge, sticker kit, dumped on its ***... it could work

RED_EL_XR8 · 10-05-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by banarcus

My next wagon will be a boss powered BA. I will build it myself.

now there is something that will deseve a spot in the projects section! :sm_headba

Biggoggs · 14-05-2005, 05:20 PM

Another example of the wagon appeal;

The new Mercedes E55 AMG Wagon
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/con...3671710325660/

mcflux · 14-05-2005, 08:48 PM

Do the BA wagons (XT, Futura) have the 220 5.4 V8 option? I'd go for a Futura V8 wagon with a Ghia interior & custom rear interior that looks "Ghia".

My Favourite Wagon Of All Time has to be the Brady Bunch one from their '90s movie (poo brown 70s V8 behemoth!)

-Dave-

EFFalcon · 14-05-2005, 08:53 PM

no V8 wagons.

mcflux · 14-05-2005, 09:07 PM

doh :( pity!

Also, jonbays: Seeing how Holden have brought out a couple of runs of SS wagons, I wouldn't be surprised if the same deal occurs close to the end of the VZ's life. So there's another option from the Red Corner (too bad Ford can't match it, unless CAPA buy a metric arseload of XR8s & Territories and morph them together)

-Dave-

Clarke AV · 16-05-2005, 02:48 AM

I got one LOL

banarcus · 16-05-2005, 10:16 AM

You've got what Clarkey? A V8 wagon?

Clarke AV · 16-05-2005, 12:09 PM

yes a 1994 ED Fairmont 5.0 wagon

banarcus · 16-05-2005, 10:01 PM

Thats my sig