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Old 08-08-2010, 04:04 PM   #31
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About 6 months ago I got a fine for not wearing a helmet on a bicycle. I was livid, only in Nanny-State-Australia could they fine you for that. Who am I hurting except potentially myself by not wearing a helmet?? Then a friend asked what I thought about seatbelt laws. Didn't have a good answer for that one....

As for the USA, they're big on civil liberties, and I admire them for that. But it seems some people just put their safety at risk trying to prove a point. Compulsory seatbelt use is spreading though, when I was there a few months ago I saw plenty of the "click it or ticket" campaign. Some states dont even require motorbike riders to wear a helmet....
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:25 PM   #32
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About 6 months ago I got a fine for not wearing a helmet on a bicycle. I was livid, only in Nanny-State-Australia could they fine you for that. Who am I hurting except potentially myself by not wearing a helmet?? Then a friend asked what I thought about seatbelt laws. Didn't have a good answer for that one....

As for the USA, they're big on civil liberties, and I admire them for that. But it seems some people just put their safety at risk trying to prove a point. Compulsory seatbelt use is spreading though, when I was there a few months ago I saw plenty of the "click it or ticket" campaign. Some states dont even require motorbike riders to wear a helmet....
so no helmet ok but seatbelts a no no.
i cant see the differance, without either it's a risk. bang your head on the concreate or windscrean same thing.
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Old 08-08-2010, 06:26 PM   #33
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About 6 months ago I got a fine for not wearing a helmet on a bicycle. I was livid, only in Nanny-State-Australia could they fine you for that.
So if i'm to understand correctly you where livid because you failed to wear a potentially life saving piece of equipment. It really is not that hard to put a helmet on and in certain situations it will save your life or prevent serious brain injuries.

Just out curiousity why do feel it unnecessary to wear one?
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:28 AM   #34
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Well that was the point of my post, they are the same kind of laws but I never made the connection before actually getting fined. (and after calming down) After that episode I always wear a helmet.

Just like the older generation didn't want to know about compulsory seatbelts when the laws first came in, but now the vast majority of people take for granted that they must be worn - its a cultural thing.

Having said all that, no other country has adopted the compulsory bike helmet laws and dont look like doing so any time soon, unlike the rapid spread of seat belt laws which were also pioneered in Victoria/Australia.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:12 PM   #35
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Having said all that, no other country has adopted the compulsory bike helmet laws and dont look like doing so any time soon, unlike the rapid spread of seat belt laws which were also pioneered in Victoria/Australia.
Maybe so, but I bet those countries have a lot more brain injured, nursing home dependent 20 year olds putting a financial drain on their public health system. Thus taking health funds away from research on diseases that people do not choose to suffer, just because they choose not to wear a helmet.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:18 PM   #36
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About 6 months ago I got a fine for not wearing a helmet on a bicycle. I was livid, only in Nanny-State-Australia could they fine you for that. Who am I hurting except potentially myself by not wearing a helmet?? Then a friend asked what I thought about seatbelt laws. Didn't have a good answer for that one....
I got done in 94 for riding my bike without a helmet. The police officer gave me a fine and made me walk the bike home. It was about 5 k's. And as she had my address, she decided to stop along my route home to ensure I didn't ride the bike again.

I use a helmet now. I tell my 9 year old to wear his when his riding his bike or scooter because it will help protect his head. I've already replace 1 helmet from him coming off his scooter and bike a couple of times. Last time he went head first into the letter box when his wheel got caight between the footpath and the lawn.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:04 PM   #37
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Seat belt laws generally make the occupants of the car safer, but there is plenty of evidence that they place an increased risk on both pedestrians and cyclists.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:30 PM   #38
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Seat belt laws generally make the occupants of the car safer, but there is plenty of evidence that they place an increased risk on both pedestrians and cyclists.
I guess you mean a pedestrian just cant run fast enough with a seat belt dragging behind him!

Otherwise I don't get that statement.
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I guess you mean a pedestrian just cant run fast enough with a seat belt dragging behind him!

Otherwise I don't get that statement.
Drivers can change their behaviour whilst wearing a seatbelt and this change in behaviour may lead to a greater risk to pedestrians and cyclists.
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Drivers can change their behaviour whilst wearing a seatbelt and this change in behaviour may lead to a greater risk to pedestrians and cyclists.
SAY WHAT ??

Oh wait, your real name is Harold Scruby...right?
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SAY WHAT ??

Oh wait, your real name is Harold Scruby...right?
Rinse your mouth out boy.

Seriously it is a real phenomenon and the study of it is called Risk Compensation.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:06 PM   #42
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So if i'm to understand correctly you where livid because you failed to wear a potentially life saving piece of equipment. It really is not that hard to put a helmet on and in certain situations it will save your life or prevent serious brain injuries.

Just out curiousity why do feel it unnecessary to wear one?
I take it that you always wear a helmet as a pedestrian and when driving.

The risk of head injury as a pedestrian is very similar to that of a bicyclist and the number of motorists that sustain serious brain injuries makes the number of cyclist who obtain serious brain injuries seem almost insignificant.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:37 PM   #43
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the tv once asked Peter Brock "should everyday car drivers wear a helmet?". his response was 'No, they are terribly uncomfortable and restrict your vision'. He should know, he wore one every week racing.
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the tv once asked Peter Brock "should everyday car drivers wear a helmet?". his response was 'No, they are terribly uncomfortable and restrict your vision'. He should know, he wore one every week racing.
This is why there are side airbags in cars, so no helmet needed.
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