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Old 16-03-2006, 11:05 PM   #1
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Well recently ive had a wierd problem where after leaving the car for 30mins then trying to start it, it wouldnt start unless I primed the rail a few times.

I assumed that the injectors were leaking or were just shagged. Off to work the next day to order some new injectors. After getting one quote of $325 from one of our distributors, I settled on a Set of 6 Brand new Aftermarket AU style Bosch injectors through a mob called "Power Injection" for $180 changeover for my old ones. They also are a slightly higher lb rate then stock apparently.

Installed them this afternoon and NNNN me its AMAZINGLY different. Idles soo smoothly that I keep thinking its stalled. They are super quiet and the car is actually quicker!

while it was at it I felt the intense need to stick a K&N pannel filter and decide to get a cam on monday.

Now im thinking either the classic 1004-112 or as john_xr6 suggested a 1636?

I would like some sorta idle even though i know its impossible to get a stock cam idle. Ive seen a few cars with 112's and it almost seems like its going to die at idle lol

So whats everyone's thoughts on what cam? id be buying this monday so any help is appriciated.

P.S (Change your injectors, it will do amazing things for your car)

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Old 16-03-2006, 11:59 PM   #2
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what the hell is a 1636 cam?
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Old 17-03-2006, 12:30 AM   #3
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wade 1636 it's a type of grind wade cam's make
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Old 17-03-2006, 12:49 AM   #4
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id say they would be 24lb?? I wish i could get injectors for $180..

to bad i need 46lbers.
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Old 17-03-2006, 12:50 AM   #5
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id say they would be 24lb?? I wish i could get injectors for $180..

to bad i need 46lbers.
Yes i saw 36ers in the book and they were around the $500 mark :O
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Old 17-03-2006, 12:54 AM   #6
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well ya wouldn believe it but 2 minues ago i got some 46lb ers for $320 :P:P:P

Ahh another tick off the 300rwkw list :P
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Old 17-03-2006, 01:11 AM   #7
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Initial D / Mick says:
btw DAMN your car goes well

Initial D / Mick says:
I seriously hated the 6 cyl when i went out after you left
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Old 17-03-2006, 01:18 AM   #8
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btw DAMN your car goes well

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I seriously hated the 6 cyl when i went out after you left
LOL yes Karl I said it, YOUR CAR GOES WELL! I took it for a drive and it seriously goes quite hard. I had to drive my car that night and decided stocko isnt going to cut it anymore. bring on the mods
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LOL yes Karl I said it, YOUR CAR GOES WELL! I took it for a drive and it seriously goes quite hard. I had to drive my car that night and decided stocko isnt going to cut it anymore. bring on the mods
Ah and my car is still standard.. full ofstandard parts ;)
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Old 17-03-2006, 01:43 AM   #10
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mick maybe your car is just slow :P
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LOL yes Karl I said it, YOUR CAR GOES WELL! I took it for a drive and it seriously goes quite hard. I had to drive my car that night and decided 4.0 isnt going to cut it anymore. bring on the 5.0
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Old 17-03-2006, 01:46 AM   #12
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bring on the 5speed 4litre anyday 5.0 boy. there only good for circle work! ;)
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Old 17-03-2006, 09:08 AM   #13
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Hmmmmmmmmmm time for me to think about more serious mods :Up_to_som if I want to win the title :
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Old 17-03-2006, 09:39 AM   #14
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So are the new injectors you got 19lb? or bigger?
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I might get the contact details off you as I think it's time to replace my injectors.
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Old 17-03-2006, 02:58 PM   #16
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The AU injectors do flow more 19.5 vs 19.2 lb/hr.

I’m on the look out for 30lbers, #24’s are just too easy to peg on a n/a 6.

With regards to cam choice grab a Crow 2550, should give a reasonable boost in power….
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Old 17-03-2006, 05:24 PM   #17
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I'd go the 112 You'll be able to get the idle acceptable just by playing with a few things.

BOOSTDEF: I was gonna suggest that you have a look here http://www.injectorsonline.com.au/ for injectors or else apparantly the Mitsubishi Eclipse has 40-something Lp injectors and they're always for sale cheap on Ebay, as are some of the V8 ones....... BUT you already got some
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Old 18-03-2006, 02:44 PM   #18
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Is there any injectors from other cars (apart from AU ones) that could be used to get more power? I was told that blue top magna injectors would boost power so i got a hold of a set for $50 for a try... They sucked, apart from making a little less power the biggest issue was while going through the rev range, i would get serges of power insted of constant power. Is this because the rest of my fuel cannot keep enough fuel to the fuel rail (meaning a loss in power when fuel pressure gets low) or is it just that the ECU cant run the injectors properly?
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the magna injectors are 21lb at stock falcon fuel pressure, slightly above the stock 19lb.
if they're not in good condition, then they're not going to be of much use.
at the fuel pressure used in the magna's, they're 24lb injectors.
how ever, just slapping these into the car with stock ECU generally will make the car overfuel as its not calibrated for 21lb injectors.
a lot of the time 4.0's are tuned to run rich with the stock ECU, putting bigger injectors in is only going to make it richer.
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Is there any injectors from other cars (apart from AU ones) that could be used to get more power? I was told that blue top magna injectors would boost power so i got a hold of a set for $50 for a try... They sucked, apart from making a little less power the biggest issue was while going through the rev range, i would get serges of power insted of constant power. Is this because the rest of my fuel cannot keep enough fuel to the fuel rail (meaning a loss in power when fuel pressure gets low) or is it just that the ECU cant run the injectors properly?
As john said, if you put bigger injectors in without retuning the ECU or when you dont need them and you will lose power. I use Magna blue tops in mine (Bosch 775 @ 2.75bar) and they are fine (a little small but they still work). When running them with a standard fuel reg it is about the same as running an xr6 reg on standard injectors.

All the saloon cars run the magna injectors as well (@3.2 bar fuel pressure)
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Old 18-03-2006, 07:41 PM   #21
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I might get the contact details off you as I think it's time to replace my injectors.
No problems luke, Ill get the contact details from work for you.
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