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17-05-2005, 07:25 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....550256618&rd=1
The above is obviously a stock EA-AU manifold that has been modified to fit a turbo. It's the first time I've actually seen it done. Even if it goes for a silly amount, it would be very easy to replicate, but the question is whether it does the job for a basic turbo appliation. What do you experts think? |
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17-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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seems to be the thing to do.
thats the 3rd one i've seen :P
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17-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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Interesting that he makes a mention that it has no cracks in it...in the photo I swear I can see light coming through inside the manifold.
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17-05-2005, 07:33 PM
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Interesting mod... You'd want it to hold together!
Could an XF EFI intake manifold compliment this? -Dave- |
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17-05-2005, 07:36 PM
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V8 Turbo Hoon
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hmmmm much easier than what i did, i might have a go at that. does anyone have a std manifold just sitting around? i got rid of mine not long ago.
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17-05-2005, 07:49 PM
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I have a spare manifold but was originally going to use it for this purpose. You can pick up if you want. It's from my AU motor.
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17-05-2005, 07:49 PM
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I got one for ya matt. Its all your!
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17-05-2005, 07:50 PM
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OK then use his.
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17-05-2005, 07:58 PM
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V8 Turbo Hoon
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yeah u live closer to me dont you?
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17-05-2005, 08:01 PM
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I swear that's a crack too!
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17-05-2005, 08:09 PM
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would that not favour cylinders 4 & 5 .. I dont know about the scavenging efect and wear and tear on the exhaust valves but with the flange offset like that it can't be the most efficient way surely?
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17-05-2005, 08:26 PM
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The crack could be serious, and yes the design is far from symmetrical. A friend who was originally going to do my manifold (at the moment I have no plan, which is why I'm considering all possibilities) was going to divide the stock manifold in the middle (between cylinders 3 and 4) and have the flange there, and block off the normal outlet somehow. That would have limitations too though.
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17-05-2005, 08:28 PM
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i swear it crackd to u can see day light in the beteen the 2nd an 3rd
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17-05-2005, 08:35 PM
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it can be arc welded with the right electrode. ive done it at my old work to a camping plate
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17-05-2005, 08:38 PM
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17-05-2005, 08:45 PM
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i just organised with jack to pick up his, but if it goes pear shaped i will give you a pm
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17-05-2005, 09:17 PM
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Like Qwikcorty said, you can weld cast iron but you need the right electrodes. How else do you think they got the flange onto the manifold for the turbo? I had heard a while back from someone at fords that those manifolds flow quite good for a factory manifold, so for a simple turbo setup, i would think it would be pretty good, and probably alot cheaper than getting a custom manifold made up.
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17-05-2005, 09:30 PM
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one other point, how bloody close will the dump pipe be to the firewall???
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17-05-2005, 11:50 PM
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That's like my manifold. How mad is it!
3 days left and $300 already. I bought my kit for just over double that. Man if I ever need to sell the lot I'm set. I love you ebay! Sundeep Last edited by Sundeep; 17-05-2005 at 11:51 PM. |
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18-05-2005, 04:29 PM
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do a search on ebay, falcon turbo manifold........
full custon job @ only $385
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18-05-2005, 05:40 PM
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jack are you serious you've never seen this done before!!! It's common as....I reckon half the turbo e-series I've seen have done the manifold like this, so it can't be too bad. ;)
As for favouring the rear cylinders, I really don't think it would matter that much unless you were chasing high HP. The exhaust gas is still gonna flow through the turbo isn't it.... Also, on the topic of welding cast iron, from what i've heard it's fairly straight foward but you need to take a few precautions such as the correct electrodes as someone else said and also you should pre-heat the manifold with something like a blow torch so it doesn't get all the heat concentrated in the one area which can lead to weakness in the metal. And after welding has finished it should be left to cool buried in sand, not dunked into a tub of water. |
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18-05-2005, 06:51 PM
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So what are turbo flanges worth? I'm sitting on $900 that I was just going to throw out!
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18-05-2005, 07:15 PM
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u can get custom ones made from 1k
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18-05-2005, 11:27 PM
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Some guy on FM.com warped the ****ers out of his manifold and had to get it machined lol, so you have to be careful there.
Also, I can't see it "favoring" any cylinders, because there's a pressure build up in there that all can only escape through the turbo. Sundeep |
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19-05-2005, 08:01 PM
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even know i allready cut ur manifold jack, i decided against using it. I just cant see a good position to mount the turbo using it.
So i decided im going to fix the one i made by flipping it over! No problems with cables etc now( i think ) I just have to put the turbo flange on a angle and cut off the head flange off and re-weld it on the other way! heres some pics cos we all love pictures dont we jack! |
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19-05-2005, 08:07 PM
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just gotta move the waste gate flange :P
looks pretty good though... damn u and ur skills!
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19-05-2005, 08:17 PM
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the light that you can see inside the manifold could be the sun comming through the bolt holes?? just a thought
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20-05-2005, 01:54 PM
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thats pretty dodgy for a turbo manifold guys
the whole point of an efficient turbo maifold is for it to flow smoothly and freely not create some form of pressure buildup |
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20-05-2005, 03:52 PM
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V8 Turbo Hoon
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i worked on it a bit today after work, i just have to flip the flange now and get the wastegate pipe on.
looks heaps better than the other way around. |
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20-05-2005, 11:24 PM
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If it works who gives a **** George. Mine works good, and the original Ford cast prototypes are pretty similar. Same sort of design etc. but the flange is in the centre.
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How's this for a turbo manifold?
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