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Old 09-07-2007, 11:26 AM   #1
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Hey has anyone on these forums installed a capa supercharger kit onto their e series falcon? Ive heard the kits copme with everything youd need to have a supercharger running (with no hidden costs) is this true?

Any info would be great
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:16 PM   #2
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Hey has anyone on these forums installed a capa supercharger kit onto their e series falcon? Ive heard the kits copme with everything youd need to have a supercharger running (with no hidden costs) is this true?

Any info would be great
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Great kits, that will see the car running and a good power increase, but to do it properly you will need larger injectors, rising rate fuel reg, after market engine management, and possibly and intercooler and piping.

So the answer is yes they do come with everything to get you running but it all depends on how much power you are after and how well you want it to run.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:26 PM   #3
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Hey has anyone on these forums installed a capa supercharger kit onto their e series falcon? Ive heard the kits copme with everything youd need to have a supercharger running (with no hidden costs) is this true?

Any info would be great
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hey mate,
i have done a few of these kits to e series cars, the last one i did was with a built motor with lower comp and all the gear, just tell them what you have got and what you want to do with it and they will tell you the best thing to do and buy. every kit i have done which is around 11 or 12 has been off them and you absolutly get every thing you need. hope this helps

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Old 09-07-2007, 01:04 PM   #4
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cheers guys. one last quick question, will a stock ED engine (manual) be able to run a supercharger without damaging/wearing the engine?
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cheers guys. one last quick question, will a stock ED engine (manual) be able to run a supercharger without damaging/wearing the engine?
Yes with a very good tune!
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:26 PM   #6
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cheers for the info boys, ill call them up today for a quote
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You'll be worrying about your T5 before your engine ;)

However you should be fine if you:

A) get a "standard" setup, ie not swapping pulleys around & whatnot to up the psi, etc
B) drive it like you're about to lose your Jetta to Jimmy Chan
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cheers for the info boys, ill call them up today for a quote
when you get the quote can you share with everyone. i would really like to know the price. i may be looking at doing the same in the next couple of years :
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:22 PM   #9
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when you get the quote can you share with everyone. i would really like to know the price. i may be looking at doing the same in the next couple of years :
the quote i got was the same as listed on their website (i was hoping for cheaper haha) which is;
$5350 for powerdyne supercharger and components
$6000 for powerdyne supercharger, components and water injection (which lets you goto 9 psi over the 7psi for standard setup)

There was also a vortech supercharger kit, but that was for modded cars (mines basically stock except for exhaust) and was about another $2000-$2500.

They sound like pretty mint kits, and i particularly like them as they seem to have EVERYTHING you need to setup your car for s/c. included chip. so much better than all the other hidden costs for extra gear you get with other kits from other companys (although i assume there will still be a small group of extra expences haha)

Now im just raising funds to get the stage one kit, which i should be able to buy pretty damn soon (tax check will help fix the hole this kit will cost haha)
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:29 PM   #10
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Are they using the Eseries Eliminator chip now or the old chip still?
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Pretty sure they said on the StreetFords DVD its the eliminator chip.
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I rang cappa and was interested in a charger kit for my ef v8 and the 300killowat at the motor kit is around the 7grand mark and buy the time you by an intercooler ,fitting and tuning it cumbs to about 11grand for cappa to do it..They also recommend that you use a vortech charger as the powerdyne one is only good for 8-9psi it add about a grand extra to the price but it all adds up to about 11grand..The 300 killowat kit is the most you can get out of a stock 5 liter...My v8 has had a baby cam manifold ported and heads ported with heavy duty valve springs considering if i change my manifold and cam and retune my car i can get about 180 at the tyres just by a cam and maniflod change the charger kit seems expensive....On a stock 5 liter you will get about 190-200 at the rears and on a motor like mione with a bit of work you will get about 240 at the rears its expensive...
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yeh forced induction is mostly always expensive if its done right spend 11 gs on a twin turbos setup for your 8 man that would be interesting.
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B) drive it like you're about to lose your Jetta to Jimmy Chan
Not unless you drive off at the end of the race and have big VINCE to stop Jimmy going after you,

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Not unless you drive off at the end of the race and have big VINCE to stop Jimmy going after you,

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erm, I just realised my typo! What I meant was:

B) DON'T blah blah blah
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I rang cappa and was interested in a charger kit for my ef v8 and the 300killowat at the motor kit is around the 7grand mark and buy the time you by an intercooler ,fitting and tuning it cumbs to about 11grand for cappa to do it..They also recommend that you use a vortech charger as the powerdyne one is only good for 8-9psi it add about a grand extra to the price but it all adds up to about 11grand..The 300 killowat kit is the most you can get out of a stock 5 liter...My v8 has had a baby cam manifold ported and heads ported with heavy duty valve springs considering if i change my manifold and cam and retune my car i can get about 180 at the tyres just by a cam and maniflod change the charger kit seems expensive....On a stock 5 liter you will get about 190-200 at the rears and on a motor like mione with a bit of work you will get about 240 at the rears its expensive...
yeah, me and my mate were just talking about the power-cost ratio. i originally thought it was pretty cheap the kit, but it only puts out 200kw at the flywheel, and my mate reckons (who im starting to agree with more and more) that a AU conversion, nice big cam and tune will give me about the same result (or near enough) for a fraction of the cost?
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yeah, me and my mate were just talking about the power-cost ratio. i originally thought it was pretty cheap the kit, but it only puts out 200kw at the flywheel, and my mate reckons (who im starting to agree with more and more) that a AU conversion, nice big cam and tune will give me about the same result (or near enough) for a fraction of the cost?
Your probably correct, BUT if you get the blower kit, there is alot more headroom for future power gains that a naturally aspirated motor couldn't hope to acheive. Their is only so much you can do to an NA 6 until you hit a wall, whilst with a blower you have the potential to go a fair bit further in the future if you choose to (plus the bragging rights of having a blower under the hood )
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yeah, me and my mate were just talking about the power-cost ratio. i originally thought it was pretty cheap the kit, but it only puts out 200kw at the flywheel, and my mate reckons (who im starting to agree with more and more) that a AU conversion, nice big cam and tune will give me about the same result (or near enough) for a fraction of the cost?
I have the powerdyne kit in mine, with a few extras added to it, it ended up costing almost 10 grand... but it did end up with 190rwkw which adds up to around 250kw at the flywheel. Like Rmyers said an NA 6 has a pretty low power wall and to get there it ends up costing more than a blower in the long run. If you want a cheaper way to get more power go turbo it seems to be the cheapest way. Shop around theres plenty of second hand turbos.
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yeah id go turbo over supercharge in my oppinion.
u could get 200rwkw pretty easily and it would cost around the $8,000 mark if u get a snort kit and a wolf engine management and injectors and eveyrthing else.
but thats on low boost if u boosted it up there is alot more there.
in a n/a setup with a big cam and everything ud max out at like 180rwkw and then if u did some amazing things u may hit 200rwkw.
just my opinion ive gone the n/a way but i wish i hadnt.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:20 PM   #21
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See if i had 10 grand, or even 8 grand, i would go for the turbo option, but i dont, i only got around 5 grand to spend (which is why i wanted to supercharge, coz i thought it would give me big gains with a cheap price, even tho i know that combo is basically impossible). And although i would love a car that would blow off most cars on the road, i just dont have the money. I want about 200kw at flywheel (should be able to beat most commodore 6s and stock 8s with that?) and supercharger seemed the easiest option to get to that? but now n/a seems a pretty decent option too.

Why are fast cars so expensive haha
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easy, go jap :\ spend 8 grand on a jap car instead of just a turbo lol :S
But its upto you. Its kinda unique to have a ford falcon with a turbo under the hood!
But the costs are crazy :|
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doofus, there have been a few budget turbo builds undertaken here, and in the AU section. Check 'em out ;)
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