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Petro-sexual
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
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Its the 40th anniversary since the introduction of mandatory seatbelt laws.
In Victoria 30% of people killed on the roads last year were not wearing seatbelts. I cant believe people still drive without them. I'm just not comfortable without it on. Even just moving my car a very short distance, at home or in the work carpark, etc. I still put the seatbelt on, it's a natural reaction. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2006
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It is a mystery to me that this would happen today in this century as well, but what I can say is, most people born over the last 20-25 years just belt up partly because most of the "mums taxis" back then had graduated from VW beetles and 2 door Cordies with no seat belts (especially in the back) to 180B's and HQ Holdens that did have seat belts through out the car, and for which they were educated especially at school and even TV adds run during kids TV hrs to belt up. Today with the much more convenient retractable seat belts it just seems so second nature to them.
For me, and especially my dad however we had to learn to use them. I can remember travelling from Adelaide to Melbourne as a kid in the back (and I mean in the back!) of an XP S/wagon a few times. It was so different then. But the thing that stayed in my mind is when my dad bought an HT Prem that did not have retractable belts, he would just sling the belt over his shoulder to give the appearance of wearing a belt to avoid a fine. Safety was clearly not his primary concern. He did this well into the early 80's. We all use them now including my dad but the retractable seatbelt seem to play a big part in seat belt use acceptance. I can remember seeing my dad struggle quite comically with the appearance of wearing a retractable seat belt for a little while until he gave up fighting the machine and just started to buckle up instead. I see no reason why anybody would not use one as second nature now, and 30% non compliance is too high, even 1 % would still need to be questioned imho. Bud Bud |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2008
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i wear one all the time, and it becomes second nature to just put it on when you sit down. i am like MAD above, i'm not comfortable without it.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I remember my dad having them fitted to any car that didn't have them. We just didn't go anywhere without them on and as a young driver my car didnt move unless all my friends had theirs on too, unconditionaly.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Townsville
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Ten years ago I started going to the USA on busines, I could not believe that most people do not wear seat belts, when I asked why, the most common reply was ' It's not the law, and I don't like bieng told what do do. It's not ther law in most US states..
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SE Melbourne
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It is as much a part of my start up routine as turning the key, dont know why people wouldnt use them
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Really makes you wonder why you wouldnt wear a seatbelt.
I know of only one person who doesnt have to wear a seatbelt due to medical conditions (certified and applied to be legal) but for everyone else, youd have to think that the thought of going through the windscreen would make you pull your head in a bit - wouldnt it? |
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Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
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I wore seatbelts (in Vic) before it became law.
Back then (with bench seats) they kept me in the drivers seat instead of sliding over to the passenger side in corners ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Hervey Bay
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my car dosn't have seat belts
havnt figured out the best bay to fit sash belts |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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Anyway.. when she was told of the fines and the strictness of the law here she soon stopped her whining and complied. I think dad, in the 10 years I remember him having the XA never wore the belt once. Just put it over his shoulder and rested it where it should clip in. He even got pulled over once for a breath test, the cop noticed that it wasn't fastened and dad just said 'I thought I was going to get out of the car' when questioned why it wasn't on properly.. He is another one of those 'Don't like being told what to do' people... if it weren't for retractable belts it would still be over his shoulder and not fastened. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
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My boss keeps forgetting to put his seatbelt on, its only in his new Lexus that he wears it because the seat belt alarm goes nuts if you don't put it on.
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FGX XR8
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
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I've always had the attitude of the car doesn't move until all seatbelts are on. Often arguements occur to which the passengers are told seatbelt on or walk.
These are one item in a car that will save your life in many situations so i don't understand how people can argue about not wearing one. It's really not that hard and in all reality if it's uncomfortable you will get used to it over time. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
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Even in a situation when you brake suddenly due to sombody cutting you off, it prevents you (or morso the passengers) from becoming a dashboard ornament.
Dont understand the "logic" of people who dont wear it cos they dont have to...like cmon, its there for a reason.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
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Don't know how come you wouldn't let alone forget to put it on
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Seat belts can fail !!!!
Torn or frayed, and then put under suficient load and =no seat belt Had mine fail in my XC 12 years ago in a head on, just the previous day it hadnt clipped in properly (prob dirty or something) but didnt think anything much of it Next day had my face in the screen !!!!!!!!!!!! Hence a pic of my ute on my AVITAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Destroyer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
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my uncle refused to wear a seatbelt (lost license multiple times) deep into his forties. when his son hit 5 he started wearing one to set a good example.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: miriam vale , qld
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had a customers new VZ calais in the shop , owner droped it off in the morning and wanted me to deliver it back to his house when i had finished the job. jumped in and went to put belt on and found the spare key jammed into the belt clip.
i took my car and picked up the owner, when asked about the key he said that he never wore seat belts and the alarm was annoying him. .....and his job was a "life coach" ??????????? duh ![]()
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The Thread Killa
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne
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20+ years ago I saw an ad in an American car magazine for T-shirts with a seatbelt printed on them (so you look like you're wearing one). I believe such shirts are still available online.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
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In Vic I find thet couriers (not all) don't wear them as they are constantly in and out of their vehicle.
In NSW it's taxi drivers who don't, and boy are they bad drivers. I wanted a harness!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
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I wonder how many of that 30% is busses though? Remember alot of them still dont have them, and even if they do no one still wears them.
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Join Date: May 2005
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The simple fact is many people do not wear seat belts, I often go to crashes with serious injuries and there was no seat belt worn. Personally I do not see the logic of not wearing them, but I guess my attitude is a bit different because I have seen the star shaped impact mark on a windscreen with hair caught in it and the face of a 20 year old girl that will that required a new jaw made out of her ribs, lost one eye, never smell again and require countless rounds of surgery to have some form of face again.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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I just bought brand new ones for my Zephyr, you have to consider the condition of seat belts that are 40 years old! Or younger ones that have been in a smash.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Ever since I was a kid I was taught to wear a seatbelt. To the point my parents refused to even start the engine should it not be on. To tell the truth, they've never bothered me as a kid or as an adult, it was programmed into me at such a young age its second nature to me. Get in car, left hand over right shoulder (or vice versa if I'm a passenger), belt down. Then start car. And its even standard routine should I just be backing a car out off my front lawn to come straight back up onto the driveway, or moving cars around. When I did two weeks work experience at a car yard earlier this year without even thinking I'd just throw the belt on while moving cars around on the yard.
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Seat belts were not invented to save lives. They are just to save the Ambo's time walking around picking up pieces of people.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2006
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In my harsh opinion, if you don't wear a seatbelt, you deserve what you get.
If you die as a result, then it may just be your lucky day, considering you could live and be in a terrible condition for the rest of your life. I know 2 people who were thrown from their car due to not wearing a seatbelt. Neither survived. Belt Up, or Suffer the Pain.
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Using a very black sense of humour that you have started. I could say it is easier if they don't have a seat belt, then we don't have to cut the body out of the car.
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