Used car: older/low km vs newer/high km?

HULK_I6T · 21-07-2015, 12:04 PM

When I bought my BF2 XR6 turbo almost 2 years ago for the same money I could have bought a used FG XR6 turbo or G6ET.. But with a lot more km... I decided on the mint low km as brand new BF2 instead.

Over the weekend, I was at a Birthday party showing a family member my XR6T and he asked what I paid for it...

When I told him he says "what isn't it a BF" You could have bought a FG xr6 turbo for that money..

I told him that its an as new car with only a few thousand km on the clock and with all options and leather. He responds with "no matter, the fg is the better car"

Whilst I agree the FG xr6t or G6ET is the better car but only when comparing new for new. But comparing a 7000km car vs 100,000km car, I don't think so.

For any price point you can always buy a minter low km older car or a average newer car.. What is your preference? Older and mint/low km or newer and average/higher km.

I would take the older (and even lower species car) that has the low km mint condition over a newer high km car.

Actually it bugs me when people buyer the roughest cheapest example of a particular model just to say they have one.. For instance if you have money to buy a neat BF xr6 turbo buy one. For the same money Don't buy the roughest G6ET with 150,000km just to say you have a G6ET.

Your thoughts?

DBourne · 21-07-2015, 12:06 PM

The Jones' only care about what is the newer model unfortunately..

Kinda like when people say a current day car is better than an older car, it's based purely on age..

I think I've seen someone constantly post that here.. not sure who though..

**DJM83** · 21-07-2015, 12:11 PM

**Giant Cranium** · 21-07-2015, 12:19 PM

I'm sure this is a rehash of a older thread from hulk

Express · 21-07-2015, 12:30 PM

Hulk, I think they saw you coming and you were ripped off.

It doesn't take much too tidy a car up, in fact after you work on it you feel it's your own and not something you just paid for.

What was the cake like?

Whitey-AMG · 21-07-2015, 12:32 PM

Was there a BBQ on at this Birthday party......

Depends on how they drive - right ?
You may have 2 FG XR6T that have 80,000 Klm on them - identical cars - but they drive and feel different.....

End of the day - none of the cars you listed BFXR6T / G6ET / FGXR6T are collectable or special - so why not buy the newer model - It may still have an extended warranty and end up being a better car and better value.

auxr · 21-07-2015, 12:46 PM

The real question is what mods the FG has over the BF and 0 - 100 kph times.

MAGPIE · 21-07-2015, 12:50 PM

Both slower than a Camry so who cares

LG17 · 21-07-2015, 12:53 PM

There's an old saying about buying the worst property in the best street...

JTFG · 21-07-2015, 01:22 PM

No questions about it. Newer/high km car.
By having a newer car people will think that you're more successful.
As the years go on those 7000kms will be meaningless

Oops got sucked in by the troll

HULK_I6T · 21-07-2015, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

End of the day - none of the cars you listed BFXR6T / G6ET / FGXR6T are collectable or special - so why not buy the newer model - It may still have an extended warranty and end up being a better car and better value.

I never said they were collectible in any way. this thread has nothing to do with being collectible or not. In all seriousness the only collectible fords will be the Miami V8 powered GT and the F6/I6T cars. The older GT 5.4 wont do much.

People that ar emost guilty in this regard were traditionally the WRX brigade. They always by a roughie Sti over a mint regular WRX.. I just dont get it.

Whatever price point you are at, get the best condition mint car you can, dont try and extend into the next series etc and get a roughie.

HULK_I6T · 21-07-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

There's an old saying about buying the worst property in the best street...

that dont apply to cars, just the housing market.

noone wants cars that are past their best. Buy them when they are at their best.

**Dave R** · 21-07-2015, 01:29 PM

How much did the BFII go for?

Iggle Piggle · 21-07-2015, 01:39 PM

I love that your family regular troll you.

"Could have got a FG for that money".

"VE looks newer than your BF".

etc

Surely you know they don't believe half the things they say to you...they just say it because they know it will get a rise out of you, and it gives them all a good laugh.

I think I like your extended family.

LG17 · 21-07-2015, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

that dont apply to cars, just the housing market.

noone wants cars that are past their best. Buy them when they are at their best.

Ah, at their best - so when they're new then...

jmack · 21-07-2015, 01:41 PM

A hulk better hope your partner dosnt think the same way and want a newer model

Iggle Piggle · 21-07-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

Ah, at their best - so when they're new then...

What year was BF at its best? Was it this year?

Whitey-AMG · 21-07-2015, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I never said they were collectible in any way. this thread has nothing to do with being collectible or not. In all seriousness the only collectible fords will be the Miami V8 powered GT and the F6/I6T cars. The older GT 5.4 wont do much.

People that ar emost guilty in this regard were traditionally the WRX brigade. They always by a roughie Sti over a mint regular WRX.. I just dont get it.

Whatever price point you are at, get the best condition mint car you can, dont try and extend into the next series etc and get a roughie.

You are kidding yourself if you think any of those cars will become collectible......
Only late model Ford / FPV cars that may retain some value will be the BFGT 40th. GTF and FG GT R Spec. The rest will fight over the scraps.
Its why i drive my BFGT daily and enjoy it - I aint kidding myself like some.

New Mustang ECO BOOST will replace the I6T in time for the Turbo guys so your XR6T with low klm will be just another boring old falcon barge. Thats life. Now grow up and move on.........

**Revolver** · 21-07-2015, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

When I bought my BF2 XR6 turbo almost 2 years ago for the same money I could have bought a used FG XR6 turbo or G6ET.. But with a lot more km... I decided on the mint low km as brand new BF2 instead.

Over the weekend, I was at a Birthday party showing a family member my XR6T and he asked what I paid for it...

When I told him he says "what isn't it a BF" You could have bought a FG xr6 turbo for that money..

I told him that its an as new car with only a few thousand km on the clock and with all options and leather. He responds with "no matter, the fg is the better car"

Whilst I agree the FG xr6t or G6ET is the better car but only when comparing new for new. But comparing a 7000km car vs 100,000km car, I don't think so.

For any price point you can always buy a minter low km older car or a average newer car.. What is your preference? Older and mint/low km or newer and average/higher km.

I would take the older (and even lower species car) that has the low km mint condition over a newer high km car.

Actually it bugs me when people buyer the roughest cheapest example of a particular model just to say they have one.. For instance if you have money to buy a neat BF xr6 turbo buy one. For the same money Don't buy the roughest G6ET with 150,000km just to say you have a G6ET.

Your thoughts?

Your Backing your own decision that you've lauded about before.

What a surprise......

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0nni

No questions about it. Newer/high km car.
By having a newer car people will think that you're more successful.
As the years go on those 7000kms will be meaningless

Oops got sucked in by the troll

Absolutely. I've seen across many build threads of failures that have come on high age, low milage cars. All sorts of kinds. Doesnt matter how many K's, years catch up.

auxr · 21-07-2015, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I never said they were collectible in any way. this thread has nothing to do with being collectible or not. In all seriousness the only collectible fords will be the Miami V8 powered GT and the F6/I6T cars. The older GT 5.4 wont do much.

People that ar emost guilty in this regard were traditionally the WRX brigade. They always by a roughie Sti over a mint regular WRX.. I just dont get it.

Whatever price point you are at, get the best condition mint car you can, dont try and extend into the next series etc and get a roughie.

Just about brought the whole tribe , including the WRX boys into Hulk world - who wants to play ?

Franco Cozzo · 21-07-2015, 01:59 PM

Its no tezza

Smoke Pursuit · 21-07-2015, 02:01 PM

Id rather get out and enjoy my cars...

**Silver Ghia** · 21-07-2015, 02:18 PM

Calendar time.

Water from the air absorbs into the brake fluid which causes braking system internals to corrode and deteriorate. Coolant deteriorates so corrosion happens in the cooling system especially aluminium parts.

Rubber seals in the engine, transmission, diff, brakes, steering, cv's, turbocharger etc. harden and deteriorate so leaks start to happen or dirt gets in.

Not to mention rust inside body panels that start to occur, unseen from the outside.

All in a "mint" looking car regardless of how well its been serviced and cared for.

Yeah, older cars are a better buy.

The best buy is the car you most enjoy owning and driving. One that continually satisfies you for years on end, whenever you open the door and sit in it in the garage, and when driving it. Whether its high mileage or low, new or old.

gossy · 21-07-2015, 02:19 PM

The member of your family is a very smart person, are you sure you are related?

Sam_Boss260 · 21-07-2015, 02:20 PM

Hang on a minute, going to grab my popcorn out of the microwave....... it's another Hulk thread and it isn't even Friday !!!!

gossy · 21-07-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam_Boss260

it's another Hulk thread and it isn't even Friday !!!!

How lucky are we???

arronm · 21-07-2015, 02:30 PM

With any secondhand purchase, you are only buying the life left in the item

Where's Wally?????

auxr · 21-07-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gossy

How lucky are we???

Extremely - all manner of constructive banter going on, including bbq's, a birthday party, family discussion - wouldn't miss it for the world.

Whitey-AMG · 21-07-2015, 02:39 PM

Here's a dilemma for you Hulk - and dont blow a rear main seal thinking about it too much.....

Would you prefer your XR6T or this genuine Phase III below ?
Now think about the Pros and Cons , maybe start a poll to cover it..

HULKS XR6T or this Genuine daily driven Phase III ( remember - Best of breed V newer car with lower kays mint argument blah blah blah )

Which would you choose......

xisled · 21-07-2015, 02:41 PM

I knew of an XR6T that had a harder life than most cars. This thing got thrashed like no tomorrow, burnout after burnout after burnout.

The car was purchased brand new for the intention of burnouts. By the time my friend sold the car it had racked up around 6000ks around 5 years old, had been resprayed to hide the tyre slap, interior still looked brand new as the back seat never got used.

So yes this car looked like a show room car after the respray had low cars, engine sounded fine. but deep down we knew it was thrashed and destroyed.