New WADECAM 1636 Experiences

Grechie · 02-08-2005, 10:57 PM

Hey guys...after deciding what cam to upgrade to from a stock cam, id defently recommend the 1636, apprently theres only 2 other people with this profile keith russel sed, wen i went to wade on monday, a guy from south australia and a guy from sydney?.....b4 i continue any further just wanna thank neb for installin this cam in on monday night...we had a troubles, all because wen i poured oil on the cam, it got the plugs wet...DOH

anyways, after goin with nebs bro alex for a 2 hour run in to willy and on the high way , and just random places @ 1/4 throttle, it started to feel alot more responsive on the throttle, it loved to hold gears with power button off, and after running it in (no high rpm) after 2 hours i slowly started giving it off the line to 60km then let go, after roughly 4 hours, i went to niko's joint were he gave me his EBXR map sensor to try , this is wen i gave it sh!t...i took it down the road of BP , (that leads to you yangs) and booted it @ 50 clicks in 1st, it PULLED all the way to 5600rpm and didnt stop, i swear, i was stumped, i usually wait till i feel the car stop pulling but it didnt and it went straight into redline and close to 6000rpm nearly...which i put in 2nd, now no joke b4 i new wat was goin on i look @ the speedo, it was @ 130km in 2nd gear..., 3rd come along and it shot to 160 very quickly were i backed off...now this whole time the car DIDNT stop a torque curve!

this profile rocks, i was told it pulls from 1,100rpm to redline..now i will need a new dif.. i have a 2.77 Single spinner...so i dont have the 0-30km pulling i need :(

the mods i have with this cam are a K&N pod, pacey's, high flow cat, redback 2.5 inch exhaust n thats it...

ill get this cam dialed in asap but atm stock timing and i havent even resetted my ecu yet...

i defently recommend this Camshaft

-Grechie!

Pazza · 03-08-2005, 08:44 AM

If you dont mind me asking..wat price did you pay for this?

Simmo · 03-08-2005, 08:50 AM

sweet dude, sounds like it really clears up that top end power issue. will surely grab one of these when i get some more cash.

EFFalcon · 03-08-2005, 09:32 AM

if you're a fordmods member, and tell them that.
it should be about $120-$130 change over.
pretty cheap performance mod

add in another $100ish for a vernier gear (optional but highly recommended) and you're set.

**Polyal** · 03-08-2005, 10:25 AM

yeap ill be getting this next month..I signed up to fordmods last night

But I cant wait!

Obviously teh result will be just as good in a manual?

XRated · 03-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Nooooice! I might upgrade mine then, crazy stuff!!!!

ned · 03-08-2005, 11:57 AM

Can anyone provide some insight as to the main differences between this one and the 1604? I'm determined to get a cam back in. Luke, is yours still running like ? Or have u rectified the problem?

donno · 03-08-2005, 12:23 PM

Sounds awesome. Was looking at 1604, but this is even better. I know very few people have one, but is there any dyno sheets lying around?

Supa R00 · 03-08-2005, 05:07 PM

specs of this cam please!!!

BLKPHN · 03-08-2005, 05:20 PM

so whats the difference with the 1604 and the 1004-112?
ive just got the 1004-112 and im loven it it will spin all of 1st and a bit in second.it is so happy to rev to 5000rpm now it hated it b4.

EBeastious · 03-08-2005, 05:32 PM

sounds aweasome and also feels aweasome i love it grechie

XRated · 03-08-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ned

Can anyone provide some insight as to the main differences between this one and the 1604? I'm determined to get a cam back in. Luke, is yours still running like ? Or have u rectified the problem?

G'day buddy. After increasing the idle, it's been fine and even better after replacing the leads. Fuel consumption is high, but I think that's related to something else. I replaced the MAP sensor too and it went down.. I'm going to try the oxy sensor next.

Simmo · 03-08-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Supa R00

specs of this cam please!!!

all i can remember is that its very similar to the 1604 in everything cept lift. which is up near or a bit past .490

Supa R00 · 03-08-2005, 09:55 PM

a 1604 is .472 ex. and .481 in. anyway... shouldnt be too much difference unless it has more duration. could explain the lumpier idle cause i have a 1604 and its pretty much stock idle... im lookin at an upgrade asap so i might look into this profile.

Grechie · 04-08-2005, 03:52 AM

i payed $122 for the cam, straight swap over from my stock cam...i have to by one of those gears i beilive and get the timing set proply by a dyno

**Polyal** · 04-08-2005, 11:34 AM

so how does that work?

You drive up, wait for car to cool down and then do a straight swap?

or do I find a spare cam and just give them that and swap?

neb · 04-08-2005, 11:38 AM

Just get a spare ea cam.. they can be had for pretty cheap these days

InitialD · 04-08-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by neb

Just get a spare ea cam.. they can be had for pretty cheap these days

Yes thats why ive got 4 here :P

**Polyal** · 04-08-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by InitialD

Yes thats why ive got 4 here :P

And thats why Ill be buying one off you around the 20th of this month

InitialD · 04-08-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

And thats why Ill be buying one off you around the 20th of this month

and thats why there is now one sitting there for you ;)

Grechie · 07-08-2005, 08:45 PM

after runnin around for awhile now with it, this cam now feels like its robbed my low end torque, (maybe its the 2.77 dif or 4 speed auto) but now its not as strong, (cant churp the wheels off the line anymore) , power feels like its being delivered at 40-50km/h in 1st gear, i pulled a pathetic 17.0 1/4 mile, im disgusted at that crap, and a 8.8 too 100km/h using the g tech... i dont know whats wrong anymore...meh till i can afford a dyno tune it will stay the way it is. (i got the timing set to standard)

- Grechie

INJECTED_250 · 07-08-2005, 08:52 PM

um 2.77 and a 4 speed?.... im surprised it even moves

**Stav** · 08-08-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grechie

after runnin around for awhile now with it, this cam now feels like its robbed my low end torque, (maybe its the 2.77 dif or 4 speed auto) but now its not as strong, (cant churp the wheels off the line anymore) , power feels like its being delivered at 40-50km/h in 1st gear, i pulled a pathetic 17.0 1/4 mile, im disgusted at that crap, and a 8.8 too 100km/h using the g tech... i dont know whats wrong anymore...meh till i can afford a dyno tune it will stay the way it is. (i got the timing set to standard)

- Grechie

Grechie you are giving me deja vu!! I have found that cams run harder the day that you install them .Are your lifters quiet? Does the car feel like it has a head gasket leak and idle really bad in the morning?

If these are ok then you need to dial the cam in or get a unichip like me.The ecu may not be coping.

My first installation of dev 4 cam gave me 0-100 in 9 seconds even though I had 150rwkws.Was sorted by looking at the above.

jonbays · 08-08-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Grechie

after runnin around for awhile now with it, this cam now feels like its robbed my low end torque, (maybe its the 2.77 dif or 4 speed auto) but now its not as strong, (cant churp the wheels off the line anymore) , power feels like its being delivered at 40-50km/h in 1st gear, i pulled a pathetic 17.0 1/4 mile, im disgusted at that crap, and a 8.8 too 100km/h using the g tech... i dont know whats wrong anymore...meh till i can afford a dyno tune it will stay the way it is. (i got the timing set to standard)

- Grechie

This is the problem with peaky cams in auto's the off cam peformance in the 0-40k area is soooo bad it actually is slower over the quarter. A common experience I can tell you. You know an XR6 cam and a Unichip can make an auto Falcon very nice to drive not as thrilling to rev to the limiter but faster all the same.

**Stav** · 08-08-2005, 08:41 PM

I think his setup and unichip will be a winner.Cams throw the tune out the window.Ford never had an ecu for a wade cam or any cam for that matter.A tune will work wonders.

EFFalcon · 08-08-2005, 08:43 PM

i honestly don't think a chip is the answer to all his questions.
it is quite obvious the 2.77 diff would be killing performance.
cam's bring power on later, and a 2.77 diff means you're spending more time in the lower rev range.

while a chip would help with power over the whole rev range, a cahnge of diff ratio (3.23 would be a good cost effective upgrade) would see the car getting to its peak power and through it quicker.

Walkinshaw · 08-08-2005, 08:46 PM

The cam he installed is a BABY torque cam. Under 200deg @50 and 490ish lift. If anything it should cause a boost in low end torque.

2.77+4speed is no worse than 2.77+3speed as well.

**Stav** · 08-08-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

The cam he installed is a BABY torque cam. Under 200deg @50 and 490ish lift. If anything it should cause a boost in low end torque.

2.77+4speed is no worse than 2.77+3speed as well.

Then the mechanical issues in my prior posts need to be looked at..especially from a bloke like me who has gone through this same problem before.I am banking on incorrect shimming and cam dialling.

INJECTED_250 · 09-08-2005, 09:17 AM

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INJECTED_250 · 09-08-2005, 09:19 AM

Diff gears............. and we all know how good 3 speeds go with 2.77's dont we :>:>.
I could not See the tune going that far out of whack with a cam this size.
Spend 500+ on a chip That MAY help your low speed pull, or spend 500 on a diff that WILL 100 percent inprove youre low speed acceleration. Ask NEb how good diff gears are.