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08-02-2005, 03:07 PM | #1 | ||
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I now have an EL fairmont ghia and she's a beauty!!!
tickford enhanced wheels, body kit suspension engine etc-etc. i havent owned a car before thats such a pleasure to drive. i only have on complaint ... the brakes..... i hate em! they fade far too easily for my liking..ive got bendix ultimate pads, good fluid DOT 5, and they still fade when i give the car a hard time. has anyone done a conversion with a bigger rotor/calliper combo?? if so id like to know what it cost and how effective it was and what, if any problems you guys have heard of ... thanks in advance for your help Last edited by Ghiadude; 08-02-2005 at 03:14 PM. Reason: subscription to thread |
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08-02-2005, 03:49 PM | #2 | ||
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put some DBA slotted rotors on with advance,or ulimate pads ,and reco ya calipers ,cause if there leaking there gone
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08-02-2005, 03:59 PM | #3 | ||
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08-02-2005, 04:22 PM | #4 | ||
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Yeah, slotted discs do help. Less heat, more grip. I'm thinking of getting some slotted DBA's myself.
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08-02-2005, 05:44 PM | #5 | ||
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Hey tx3dude I have an EL fairmont ghia tickford enhanced, wheels,white line suspension kit. The guy I got the car off he put drilled and slotted discs on it and she stops everytime. not sure of the brand of discs, there a gold color if any1 knows what they are can they tell me please..
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08-02-2005, 05:57 PM | #6 | ||
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even DBA slotteds wont get EA-L's stopping in any sort of a hurry at all. Look at places like Hoppers Stoppers, Cebco, PBR and Harrop(lol) for some decent 330mm+ twin/4 pistion brakes
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08-02-2005, 05:59 PM | #7 | ||
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08-02-2005, 08:14 PM | #8 | ||
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Speak to either Sylox or TIKFD6, they have done brake upgrades on their cars and will be able to give you a bit better idea of what to expect.
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08-02-2005, 09:11 PM | #9 | |||
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Totaly agree with this, i swear by mine. Cebco Brakes Street Performance Brake Systems FAL104A Front Twin Piston Performance Brake System - ABS & non ABS Description Qty Twin Piston Performance Front Brake Caliper - Anodised 'Black' R/H 1 Twin Piston Performance Front Brake Caliper - Anodised 'Black' L/H 1 Cebco 'Street Performance Plus' Brake Pads 1 High Grade Steel Hubs 2 Disc Rotor 330mm X 28mm, Front, Slotted Slip-on Design 2 Spindles - Modified complete with brackets, spacers, bolts and washers 2 Stainless Steel Braided Front Brake Hoses 2 Banjo Bolts and copper washers 2 Genuine FORD Upper Ball Joints 2 Genuine FORD Lower Ball Joints 2 Inner and Outer front wheel bearings 4 Hub Seals 2 Brake Fluid, 500ml bottles 2 High Temperature Bearing Grease 1 PRICE: $2,700 inc GST (plus freight and insurance) You need 17" wheels for this kit. And you need to exchange your uprights for remanufatured ones.
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08-02-2005, 10:12 PM | #10 | ||
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$2700...pfffffft
EL Futura I paid a little over $110 each for my DBA Slotted rotors, and fitted Bendix Performax pad with DOT5 fluid, and i have been unable to fade them. Further more, i have since replaced the front pads with genuine items, and still i have had no problems with fade. |
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08-02-2005, 10:26 PM | #11 | ||
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i had a look at the cebco package at hoppers stoppers the other day.
definatley worth the money for the amount of stuff that is replaced. Last edited by LUXO_8; 08-02-2005 at 10:29 PM. |
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09-02-2005, 12:00 AM | #12 | ||
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Nothing wrong with DBA Drilled & Slotted Rotors I have them on all 4 corners of my EL XR8 & it pulls up with no problem at all & havent had brake fade at all.
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09-02-2005, 12:43 AM | #13 | ||
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but 330 mm rotors and twin piston... i dont care how slotted and drilled stock sized rotors are .. when it comes to brakes bigger is almost always better
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09-02-2005, 01:20 AM | #14 | ||
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yea, i'd love to put some big brakes on my EL, but im not any sort of racer
DBA slotteds and EBC greenstuff pads are just puuuuurfect for hauling up my EL Fairmont. I may just know however of someone doing twin piston caliper/bigger rotor upgrades for Falcons for around a grand (front only) using mustang bits. I'll tell you more when and if it all happens (or someone else from Fordmods who has read about it can do so for me)
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09-02-2005, 07:14 AM | #15 | ||
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STock sized rotors will only handle a certain amount of punishment.
The reason Sylox and myself went for the big brakes is due to dabbling in a little track work. Oh, my opinion, Ultimates Eat Discs.
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09-02-2005, 08:32 AM | #16 | ||
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Hmmm... I have slotted DBA rotors. They are good. FAR better than stock. However i'm not going to say they do not fade, and it still takes 2.2 seconds to slow from 200 to 100kmh. I'm sure TIKFD6's or Sylox's don't take that long...
Mine do fade considerably after a big workout, so those who have slotted DBA replacements for their standard rotors and can't get them to fade, i'm sorry you're not pushing hard enough :P |
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11-02-2005, 11:30 AM | #17 | ||
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im thinking of using the same disc and calliper off the el gt 329mm with twin piston PBR callipers??? but im trying to keep costs to a minimum....
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11-02-2005, 02:15 PM | #18 | ||
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i have x drilled and slotted front and rear. i have definitely noticed a difference with the better pads as well. i have given them hell, and they dont fade that much. i have also found that i really need to throw the anchors down to get the ABS to come in. before the rotor change, it was way too easy to get ABS to come in...
if you have lots of money, go the cebco brakes... if not, wack some DBA rotors on...
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11-02-2005, 07:09 PM | #19 | ||
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was told at hoppers stoppers there arent any twin piston calipers to fit falcon......
other than the EL GT ones that is... good luck finding a pair!!! |
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11-02-2005, 07:26 PM | #20 | |||
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but even if you use the ELGT setup you will still need to get a set of Modified Uprights, or a set of ELGT uprights. Wayne, the ELGT or equivilent setup is basically the only setup. Hoppers said they wouldnt do them as they had no way of X-raying the uprights after modification.
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11-02-2005, 07:28 PM | #21 | ||
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thats what they told me too kerry....
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11-02-2005, 07:36 PM | #22 | ||
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And to add to my last point, you will have to spend alot more than what i did for parts from Ford.
:P ELGT Uprights @$800ea x2 =$1600 ELGT Twin Piston PBR calipers @$580 each =$1160 thats more than what i paid for my complete setup.
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13-02-2005, 02:21 PM | #23 | ||
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Dont use Bendix, they are shithouse.
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13-02-2005, 02:32 PM | #24 | ||
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im using standard ferodo's on the rear and bendix's on the front and it is noticable how much better the rears work to the fronts!
me must toss the slotteds and ferodo's on the front asap |
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13-02-2005, 04:26 PM | #25 | ||
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there used to be a place that did upgrades for old mustangs and falcons, they did twin piston conversions for late model falcs and como's... i just cant think of there name...
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13-02-2005, 09:09 PM | #26 | ||
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AU2's have twin piston calipers i think? Only downside is that its a major job to convert E series brakes to AU ones.
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14-02-2005, 01:02 AM | #27 | ||
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Ferodos = DUST CENTRAL unfortunatly.
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we'll see how they go on the front in a few weeks when i get off my butt and change em... |
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14-02-2005, 08:26 PM | #30 | |||
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Whole heartedly agree.
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