Big brakes for my ef?

MrFlibbles · 02-03-2006, 08:55 PM

Has anyone put big brakes onto thier ef? if so what did you use? i want to fill up behind my wheels and also stop a bit better! (mine also has abs)

sorry if this has been a repost but i searched and came up with nothing - then again i am computeretarded.....

vegabass · 02-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Im working on putting twin pistons from the AUII/BA on the EL....seeing if its a cost effective way of doing things rather than buying a aftermarket kit such as PBR.

you could find EL GT brakes they did a decent job

fairmont1998 · 02-03-2006, 09:32 PM

On Fordmods there are a few threads about EL GT and similar brakes. The conversions aren't too dear either.

parawolf · 03-03-2006, 12:50 PM

You can get ADR complaince kits of 4 piston AP Racing big brakes from Cebco here in Melbourne. I'm sure they do postage, but the weight of the calipers and discs could make it cheaper to come for a drive...

oneredED · 03-03-2006, 01:51 PM

I was at Hitech brakes or whatever they're called the other day looking into this, and they do a twin-pot conversion for e-series from AUII's, which open up more of the DBA rotor range (4000 & 5000 series) to us. The price is around $2k I think.

urippa45 · 03-03-2006, 09:27 PM

i put cross drilled and slotted on mine with hard pads and it stops really quick no abs and doesnt lock up. The EF rear brakes are bigger than normal, i think cross drilled n slotted is the best way to go.

347Stroker · 03-03-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vegabass

you could find EL GT brakes they did a decent job

ELGT/FBT brakes are terrible really....very overrated.
Thats why I have this on my EL XR and have left the GT/FBT in the shed.

LUXO_8 · 03-03-2006, 09:41 PM

interesting, looks very neat

a few of us eseries guys are looking into AU front and rear suspension conversions..... this enables us to use any AU brakes you'd want...i'd love some brembo's and T3 azzuro rims on my car

....eventually

svo347 · 03-03-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

interesting, looks very neat

a few of us eseries guys are looking into AU front and rear suspension conversions..... this enables us to use any AU brakes you'd want...i'd love some brembo's and T3 azzuro rims on my car

....eventually

Sign me up scotty...

347Stroker · 03-03-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

interesting, looks very neat

a few of us eseries guys are looking into AU front and rear suspension conversions..... this enables us to use any AU brakes you'd want...i'd love some brembo's and T3 azzuro rims on my car

....eventually

Its alot easier than you would believe.....just have to convince the engineers.....

TIKFD6 · 04-03-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 347Stroker

ELGT/FBT brakes are terrible really....very overrated.
Thats why I have this on my EL XR and have left the GT/FBT in the shed.

It is true, but they are heaps better than stock.
Mine are the same calipers but i run the Cebco setup, with the hub in the disc.

What is the disc you are running?

LUXO_8 · 04-03-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 347Stroker

Its alot easier than you would believe.....just have to convince the engineers.....

yep, we're just waiting for the guinnea pigs to complete their projects, then a few cars will be done........mine being one of them

i dont think it would be all that hard to have the engineer sign it off..... the chassis' are basically the same....

parawolf · 04-03-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by urippa45

i put cross drilled and slotted on mine with hard pads and it stops really quick no abs and doesnt lock up. The EF rear brakes are bigger than normal, i think cross drilled n slotted is the best way to go.

You would hope your ABS wouldn't kick in if it didn't lock up. Cross drilled brakes are useless on a car the size of a falcon. The benefits of cross drilled brakes are that they offer reduced unsprung weight on the suspension. With the weight of a falcon in makes bugger all difference.

The disadvantages of crossed drilled on a street car and on a car the weight of a falcon are numerous. Reduced physical mass of the cross drilled means that they are unable to take the heat of repeated braking. Reduced physical strength of the cross drilled discs means that you have to far more regularly check the condition of the discs for fractures. If you don't bed the discs and pads in correctly it is likely you will have premature disc failure. In the case of pad replacement, you should resurface the disc to ensure accurate mating surface for effective braking - doing this with cross drilled brakes is more expensive than regular discs. As a final point, the reduced surface area means less effective braking for high speed, repetitive stops - eg track racing.

Now this is usually more common with your regular discs eg the DBA's. It doesn't apply so much with the more expensive discs that are found on the FPV's with the Brembos, on AMG's and Porsche's. On these platforms the discs are expensive - probably close on 10 times more expensive than the DBA product.

For best braking performance on a Falcon on a budget go with grooved + vented discs, as big as can possibly fit in your wheels and calipers. Only get cross drilled if you want them for looks.

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