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Team Urinal Cake Racing
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Hey guys had a bit of a bingle and whacked the kerb pretty hard at about 40 kays and damaged front bar aswell.
Took off to drive home and noticed that the front right wheel is about 5cm back furthur than where it should be and the alignemnt is like 20 degrees out. Also because the tyre is pushed back, lock to lock is not achievable. The left side is in the normal position however. What am i looking at here new steering rack? swaybar??? whats bent thats causing it to sit so far back??? Thanks George |
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FPV GT
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Kerb @ 40k's = ouch! will probably = $$$$$$ = ouch! =
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[ 5L ]
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: North Haven, Adelaide
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i had one like that was wet and drifting and the front wheels slide into a gutter at bout 40 kays and smashed my front mag in 2 and popped the steering rack tie rod ends into the rack. yours sounds like lower control arm is bent
(this was in my last eb which was a slow auto 3.9 series 1)
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TWiZTiD EA
Join Date: Feb 2006
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might be the stub axle or lower control arm i would say
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I did the same thing in my lancer, understeered coming into a roundabout in the wet one night and collected the gutter.
Broken control arm and bushes? Wheel was pushed back and scrubbing the guard. Was a nightmare to get home...
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I've seen the same thing in an EA. Needed a lower control arm, radius rod, new rack and i think a new shock but unsure on that.
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You needed a new k frame as well didnt you?
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Team Urinal Cake Racing
Join Date: Jan 2005
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well i hope it aint the k-frame
as for steering rack ive got one out of an ed there a direct swap with an ef yes???? |
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nope EF steering racks are different to ED
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rofl copter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Werribee
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john_xr6, how different? my car seems to have a really crap turning circle, the steering rack was swapped just before i got it. is it possible to put an ed one in and would it effect the turning circle?
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Id say you could be up for a bit of dosh mate... Steering rack i'd say will be stuffed, well at least the tie rod. Looking about $300 + fitting (fully reco).
I'd be suprised if you did bend the sway bar though... I've seen some cars that have hit kerbs pretty hard, and sway bars are ok. I'd also say your frame would be bent, and your radius rod is bent aswell. Might have damaged your lower control arm too... Get it in somewhere to get it checked out. Pedders does a $14 28 point safety check, which will give you a good idea of whats wrong. Cheers Matt |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Thats a bugger. I saw your car on chapel friday night. It was looking pretty good!
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Yeap get it checked. when I had my "off" pedders made me sign a paper that said I shouldn't be driving it...so I did and drove home, who do they think they are! But yeah, its worth the $14. Karl...k frame was a it bent but I dont remember changing it.
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mine seems to be worse then my dads el and my ИИИ ed... as they can get onto the front lawn in 1 turn, i have to reverse and take another go. same size wheels and lowage on all cars.
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Team Urinal Cake Racing
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ok guys jacked up the car and took both front wheels off for inspection:
- Radius rod arm bent - Lower control arm bent - stabiliser bar mounts bent - k-frame sits 1 inch further back on right side as oppsosed to left side Wtf should i do im really ИИИИed off and dont know what to do???!!!! |
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i know when i got the guy to put my second hand steering rack in he said i had moved the k-frame back about and inch he indid it belted it forward with a mallet and did it up this moved it forward bout half an inch.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Damn that sucks. I went over a median strip about the same speed. Only ripped off two tyres from the rims. I took it to Pedders and there was nothing wrong
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Team Urinal Cake Racing
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if the k frame has been pushed back an inch on the left side would there be anydamage to the chassis?
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mate thats one for the professionals....
seriously, its not worth dicking around. Either fix it right or strip it. Its a hard call. i was qouted around $1500-2000 to fix mine when I did it, the one karl is refferring too.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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I did a similar thing a while ago in my EF. The bare minimum that needs to be replaced will be the lower control arm, radius rod and stub axle. Have a look under the bonnet, with impacts at such a high speed, its not hard to push the inner guard apart from the rest of the car, which will throw alignment out as well. There's also a fairly big chance the K-frame is bent.
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where are you looking at the k frame from? If its from the front you might be comparing it to the lower support which is closer to the k frame on one side.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Mar 2006
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They only do that so that they aren't held liable in case you have an accident after leaving there. Unfortunatley we now live in a time where everyone and anyone will sue someone for there own stuff up if given the chance. Its just a matter of covering there own backs. I actually work there (hopefully don't cop too much ИИИИ) and can say that we do actually know our stuff! Good luck nonetheless... |
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Team Urinal Cake Racing
Join Date: Jan 2005
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ummm the large nut holding the frame in has been bent backwards but i dont know if it has moved id really like to get some1 to look at it but i cant really drive it as its almost impossible to steer and very dangerous
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Jeez that doesnt sound good! Maybe if you take some pics people on here could give you an idea of how bad the damage is. Exactly how hard did you hit the curb???
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne, Eastern Subs.
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Dude I agree, that sounds like one for the pros. Might have to get the whole front end aligned at a panel beater.
If you need steering rack I will sell you one cheap cheap. Sundeep |
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