EBII Fairmont and Falcon

deano915 · 05-01-2005, 07:32 PM

I was wanting to know the difference between the EBII Fairmont and Falcon. Also what is the average price between the 2 and has anyone had experence with either and found an advantage of one over the other.

05-01-2005, 07:43 PM

the fairmont got full velour interior, electric windows, climate control extra interior lights. on the exterior it got turbo blade alloys, chrome body mouldings and a reflective rear garnish. the GLi goes for $2000-$4000 pending condition and the Fairmont $3000-$6000 pending condition. i only paid $6000 for mine and its a ED Ghia so your bound to find a decent one at a good price.

Kenaz · 05-01-2005, 07:46 PM

There's quite a few differences between the GLi and Fairmont. I think the main things that the Fairmont has over the pov packs is stuff like velour seats, elec windows, trip computer, better instrument cluster, climate control and a few other things I'm forgetting.

Psycho Chicken · 05-01-2005, 07:47 PM

Hmmmm off the top of my head;

Fairmont features the Falcon doesn't have;

Tacho dash
Turbo blades
Chrome striping
Fairmont interior (velour not cloth, rear head rests)
Trip computer
Electric windows
Automatic Climate Control
A/C standard
Auto only
The Fairmont rear garnish
Electric mirrors (pretty sure the Falcons got those though)
Front bumper extension
Rear roof lights
Map lights
Front map pockets
Rear armrest
Footwell lights (I think?)
The light on the steering column?
The light on the key hole on the driver's door?
Fading interior lights
Adjustable aerial height

Probably a few bits and pieces around I'm forget.

I've got a 1993 EB II Fairmont and couldn't be happier with it. Compared to many of the cars of the day it's got all the gucci electronic goodies. Infact there are very few electronic gizzos the BA has that the EB Fairmont doesn't.

Only issue of course is the auto, but I think the pros outweight that. Plus it's probably cheaper to convert a Fairmont to manual than convert a manual Falcon (provided you find one) to Fairmont spec.

Brent-EA Ghia · 05-01-2005, 07:51 PM

Found something missing! lol Cruise

Brent.

Psycho Chicken · 05-01-2005, 08:33 PM

Cruise wasn't standard :P

needturbo6 · 05-01-2005, 08:54 PM

the fairmonts have a tiny front spoiler extension, like xe esp's.

and map lights? rear passenger lights?, arm rest in rear seat....

and more things to stuff up.

i got an EB2 monty and its worth it for all the extras and "luxuries"

Brent-EA Ghia · 05-01-2005, 09:00 PM

Damn!

: lol, ive only ever seen them with cruise, should never make usumptions! hehe.

Brent.

Psycho Chicken · 05-01-2005, 09:07 PM

I think it might of been a delete option, ask Jack, he was the one who told me I was wrong when I said it was standard.

List update too, I forget all the little things I don't use often.

Casper · 05-01-2005, 09:09 PM

dont forget the little lights in the outside key section of the door handles. Bloody handy feature I miss on the AU.

Also time delayed interior light.

ilsautomotive · 05-01-2005, 09:11 PM

They didn't have cruise standard? That I did not know.

Psycho Chicken · 05-01-2005, 09:13 PM

Sorry Jack, it wasn't you.

http://www.fordforums.com/showthread...cruise+control

05-01-2005, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Cruise wasn't standard :P

yeah cruise was definetly standard, says so in my sales brochure......well it is for ED but im sure its the same. a few other things to add to your list Rob - different console with a light in the back of it. velour sunvisors with a mirror on the passenger side, Electric Fuel flap release. and extra boot carpet on the drivers side and the back. not to mention a different Stereo too.

Damo · 05-01-2005, 10:30 PM

Falcons had a GLi badge.

I think all this information is on www.eafalcon.com

can't wait till it's updated.... John ;)

AUII_Forte · 05-01-2005, 10:40 PM

Didn't they have extra sound deadening in the engine bay as well?? It might be the EA's I'm thinking of though.

Smoked · 05-01-2005, 10:53 PM

Well worth the little extra ($500ish) for a Monty as opposed to a POV pack falcon.

Casper · 05-01-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUII_Forte

Didn't they have extra sound deadening in the engine bay as well?? It might be the EA's I'm thinking of though.

Yep, the under bonnet area had a big black sound deadening blanket attached.

AUII_Forte · 05-01-2005, 11:02 PM

Actually I think all models except the GL/GLi had the sound deadening. My 88 EA S pac has it and I'm sure it hasn't been put in by someone else.

Psycho Chicken · 05-01-2005, 11:11 PM

John, didn't all EBII have the remote fuel release?

InitialD · 05-01-2005, 11:18 PM

not that i know of Rob

05-01-2005, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

John, didn't all EBII have the remote fuel release?

nup, only the boot release. Lukes ED didnt have electric fuel release.... they also got the low washer coolant level sensor and the low coolant sensor too. when you think about it you dont realise how much extra stuff a fairmont got over the Pov Pack. here is the price comparison when new, just out of interest. GLi Sedan- $25,704, Fairmont Sedan - $32,905, Ghia Sedan - $43,454. according to wheels mag at the time.

Psycho Chicken · 06-01-2005, 12:14 AM

Jesus, $11k for leather, wheels and a badge.

Sundeep · 06-01-2005, 12:24 AM

All EB2's got the sound deadening on the firewall. Was about bloody time as well, anything without that shit is too noisy lol...I should know ;)

Also, for interests sake the price rise for EA Fairmont to EB1 Fairmont was something like $900. Considering EB1 Fairmont was basically EA Ghia spec. $900 wasn't too bad at all. Whoever bought a EA Fairmont in 1991 must've kicked 'em selves for a while after that lol..

Sundeep

06-01-2005, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Jesus, $11k for leather, wheels and a badge.

LOL dont for get the XR Seats, LSD, leather wheel and woodgrain!!!!!! yeah i agree i wouldnt pay an extra $11k for that.

Deanodriver · 06-01-2005, 12:46 AM

Do the Fairmonts have the body coloured bumper and side strips optional, or is that a Ghia only option?

Psycho Chicken · 06-01-2005, 07:34 AM

Nope, that was an ED thing. Only the Ghias got it too, might of been an option though.

John, EBII Ghia doesn't have LSD.

Casper · 06-01-2005, 07:49 AM

The Fairmont had body coloured bumpers but a large grey stripe. LSD was not standard...even on the V8's....and god knows they needed it.

EFFalcon · 06-01-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damo

I think all this information is on www.eafalcon.com

can't wait till it's updated.... John ;)

i've updated some stuff, what else u want updated? :P

rag top · 06-01-2005, 08:01 AM

Falcon s had the map lights, rear pillar lights, tacho dash... not a fairmont exclusive.

NZ · 06-01-2005, 10:05 AM

Did the fairmont get the variable dash light dimming? I know the pov packs have either dim or bright. Did the fairmonts have the cabin lights turn on when you pulled the handle up when the car was locked?

I think that in EBII Fairmonts and Ghia's were so close in spec that you wouldnt really need to worry about which one you got (unless you really wanted an LSD and ABS)