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Old 23-12-2006, 01:23 PM   #1
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Hi guys, After the Christmas break I will be getting super low suspension for my EB wagon, my question is do I get new super low leafs ($350) or go for the reset option (about $135) my instinct is telling me that because the reset ones are alot cheaper they must be worse or bad quality or something? What are peoples experiences with reset springs?

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Old 23-12-2006, 01:42 PM   #2
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havent had any experiences however i am interested to hear em as im looking a dumpin the EF on the same springs
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Old 23-12-2006, 01:46 PM   #3
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the reset option would give you options in height as the superlows may not be low enough, yet the handling wont be as stiff or as refined as the superlows either. if you are after a damn low car that handles ok then go the reset, or if you are really precise about handling then get the superlows.
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Old 23-12-2006, 02:12 PM   #4
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depends on what you want out of the car
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Old 23-12-2006, 02:21 PM   #5
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caution: threadjacking.... better than starting a new one

i dunno bout skooter but im looking for a low looking car with better, tighter handling than it had but nothin serious.
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Old 23-12-2006, 04:09 PM   #6
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I'm the same, my car will never see the race track i just want a sweet looking wagon that is a nice cruiser that handles better than it does now
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Old 23-12-2006, 05:40 PM   #7
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re-set leafs!!!
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Old 23-12-2006, 08:10 PM   #8
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wot else should we do to improve the handling?
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Old 23-12-2006, 11:30 PM   #9
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Better shocks, don't let anyone fool you about Monroe.

- Boge
- Bilstiens
- Koni
- KYB

Spend up and you can adjustable bad boys to suit your style, me I went on a recommendation of KYB and I'm happy.

Shocks have alot to do with handling. They regulate the amount of shock the car takes from a bump and the amount of rebound. Get it wrong and they'll be bouncy bouncy get too comfortable and you'll soak up everything and you might as well fit a tiller to your new boat.

Stiffer springs help as well as lowering that reduces the height of the centre of gravity.
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Old 23-12-2006, 11:50 PM   #10
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What about sway bars, I'm not really in the know when it comes to suspension, what exactly do these do in terms of stiffening etc? I've mainly heard about whitline ones on this site are they the best?
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Old 24-12-2006, 06:24 PM   #11
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ok so my plan is:
1. new/pre loved fron springs and reset leafs
2. upgrade on shocks (middle of the road performance)

wot else can we do to improve our wagon's ride quality / handling?
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Old 24-12-2006, 06:30 PM   #12
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We got the leaf springs reset to 2 inches lower on our 79 LTD, kept the same shocks. But we also asked them to put in another 2 leafs aswell. They ended up putting in three which made it heavier duty than tonner springs. Rides real nice.
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Old 24-12-2006, 08:51 PM   #13
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That would be nice and stiff wouldn't it, with the extra leaves, was that so you could carry a decent bit of weight in it?
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Old 25-12-2006, 02:14 AM   #14
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Yeh we can't find the diff bump stop anywhere, and when we gunned it with people in the back, the tailshaft would hit the floor. Was a real pain in the ***. Getting them reset has stopped that now.
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Old 25-12-2006, 12:12 PM   #15
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How does the lowering block method compare to using reset or new leafs?
My old man used lowering blocks on his Gli wagon and made it a nice height without seeming to make any difference on handling.
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Old 25-12-2006, 08:08 PM   #16
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We had lowering blocks for years before we got them reset. But I can't really compare blocks vs reset, as we got the extra leafs put in. It's not expensive at all to get the extra leafs put in, and it's well worth it I reckon. You'd think you'd feel every bump but you don't.
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Old 25-12-2006, 08:19 PM   #17
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Better shocks, don't let anyone fool you about Monroe.

- Boge
- Bilstiens
- Koni
- KYB

Spend up and you can adjustable bad boys to suit your style, me I went on a recommendation of KYB and I'm happy.

Shocks have alot to do with handling. They regulate the amount of shock the car takes from a bump and the amount of rebound. Get it wrong and they'll be bouncy bouncy get too comfortable and you'll soak up everything and you might as well fit a tiller to your new boat.

Stiffer springs help as well as lowering that reduces the height of the centre of gravity.
i totally agree monroe is ****...i have new ones all around and only noticed a very slight difference...they make it seem good by providing a 3 yr warranty
anyway jus take it to pedders i say...a $14 report/recommendation won't hurt
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Old 31-12-2006, 05:03 PM   #18
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does anyone have an idea of how much it would be to take it to pedders and get new springs in the front, reset the leaf springs and add 3 leafs? i got $500... how much short am i?

i wanna lower it 50mm @ the front and 65mm in the ar$e
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Old 31-12-2006, 10:39 PM   #19
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Cost me about $700.00 but I self installed everything.
I got new King springs (lowered 30mm) on the front and new shorter sports struts to suit.
For the rear I got new King leafs (lowered 50mm) plus shorter sports shockers to suit. Also new bushes, Camber kit, U bolts, etc.

Not the easiest operation, took half a day. Ensure you get a wheel alignment after words.
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dont have any of the proper tools like the big press u need to reset the leaf springs or woteva u need to compress the fron springs

thanks for that tho
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Old 31-12-2006, 11:41 PM   #21
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Hi guys, After the Christmas break I will be getting super low suspension for my EB wagon, my question is do I get new super low leafs ($350) or go for the reset option (about $135) my instinct is telling me that because the reset ones are alot cheaper they must be worse or bad quality or something? What are peoples experiences with reset springs?

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Reset rears and supers on the front ( I have that in an el) with blocks if you need more ( which I did) bst package and still cheap
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dont have any of the proper tools like the big press u need to reset the leaf springs or woteva u need to compress the fron springs

thanks for that tho
The suspension place can setup and compress the front struts and springs for you and assemble them as one unit ready to fit. For the leafs you dont need any presses, just have the car high off the ground on stands.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:21 PM   #23
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is there a tutorial to resetting the leafs anywhere?
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Daily = Ae82 '85 corolla Fwd :togo: , 5 speed, 12" sub, 6x9's, green LED's

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is there a tutorial to resetting the leafs anywhere?
They are re-heated to the point where the springs go red hot then bent or cambered [reset] to the height you want.
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